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Grateful Dead Live at Carthay Studios on 1966-03-19

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Grateful Dead Live at Carthay Studios on 1966-03-19






Collection GratefulDead
Band/Artist Grateful Dead
Venue Carthay Studios
Location Los Angeles, CA

Source MSR>R>D>CDR>EAC>CDWav>Flac
Taped by Seed provided by Paul Scotton
Transferred by Tracking by Ihor Slabicky

Notes

There is debate over whether this is 3/19/66 or 3/12/66. Deadlists has a good discussion of this issue. The consensus there is that the correct date is 3/12/66. This came to me listed as 3/19/66. This is a better copy than what has been in general circulation. That MAY mean the date that came on it is correct. I don't know.

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Reviewer: Paul Scotton - - July 29, 2016
Subject: This is not 3/12/1966
Read down to the 2007 entries. David Lemieux cleared up the confusion over 3/19 and 3/12 by publishing the complete setlist of 3/12. This is not that show. Cathay Studios was on Pico Blvd and this is the Pico Acid Test. 3/12 was at the Danish Center and was not the Pico Acid Test. The handbills also help.

Intersting idea putting this back to mono. If lilrichwhiteboy is willing to stream it, I like to give it a listen.
Reviewer: lilrichwhiteboy - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - July 9, 2016
Subject: Listening Is A Skill, People.
From my reading, it seems 3/12 may have been established. If it has been, it is quite plainly obvious this is 3/12. The last riff on Viola is distinct and Bobby coming in before Midnight Hour confirms it. Why there is the slightest question of what this is - is beyond me? (if 3/12 has been confirmed to a reasonable degree).

This SBD seeded by Scotton is interesting since it is very different from the existing ambient copy I streamed and recorded years ago, and the other more recent ones I just listened too. The one I copied from this site is much softer and more mono-theistic. This one is straight board - which is very stereo. In fact, Bear's deliberate vocal and instrament stereo division is so annoying with ear phones on, I'm going to work it back to mono in Soundforge. I do have to say it's a really, really clean and upfront soundboard too. Magnificent sound!

And yes, Jerry is a bit high in the mix. But my god, his playing on Heads Up, Stormy Monday Jam, and Midnight Hour is just so incredible, having him that high is absolutely no problem for me. I never thought any white man could play like Earl Hooker or Freddy King. But Jerry could (with apologies to Stevie, Duane, and Eric).
I almost want to cry its so fucking good. That Midnight Hour is simply five star organsmic!

And oh, I'll tell you why this is the greatest white blues band in history. Because Jerry and Ron were both in it! The Midnight Hour cements Pig as the greatest white blues man who ever lived. His riffing and scatting behind Jerry is so hilariously outrageous, Louis Armstrong could take a lesson (Well, maybe I'm being a little hyperbolic).
But that's saying something. Papa John Creach would have been proud (For you newbies, check out Papa's "Bumble Bee" on youtube for pure, unadulterated blues bliss.). One album I will bow my head to and give credit for coming close to Ron and Jerry's duo antics was Jorma and Jack's first album at the New Orleans House in Berkeley.

BTW, duping this download in Soundforge, flipping the channels, and mixing them together sounds a hell-of-a-lot better.
Reviewer: sheflinm - - March 6, 2014
Subject: It is 3/12
I listened to each BIODTL and was surprised at Weir's voice being slightly off key the same way on both. Then I listened to I Know You Rider. Jerry's solo ends with a standard lick slightly off tempo in a highly recognizable way in both this and the known 3/12 recording.
Reviewer: Bozodinger - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 30, 2013
Subject: Pico Acid Test
It was a totally amazing experience. My cousin Bob and I and our first of hundreds of GD shows. We grew up just a few blocks from the Carthay. We were on 16 at the time. Life goes on but The Grateful Dead and our memories last forever.
Reviewer: jaredc - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 19, 2013
Subject: 3-19-66
My neighbor was at this acid test and I just saw 2 different handbills confirming on 3-19 there was a show played...whether or not its this show is up for debate.
Reviewer: doug_the_dude - favoritefavoritefavorite - March 19, 2013
Subject: --
A lot of the acid tests ride that line between being simple novelties for your out-of-control collection and actually being in themselves worthwhile performances; this one is a perfect example.

Viola Lee is for discerning listeners only. It really just plods along, and the mix here (and throughout) has Jerry so damned high in the mix you almost literally cannot hear the rest of the band. Given all the amazing performances of this one they did, you can afford to miss this one. Even if the mix *was* corrected, the performance is just too kool-aid meandering; try 2/2/68 instead!

The goods start to arrive with one of those delightful early Riders, and You See a Broken Heart is a *lot* of fun here, Jerry and Pigpen trading vocals. The rest of this thing is a lot of stoned stage banter and instrumental jams (one is cut); Death Don't suffers from a muffled, muddy, inaudible vocal, and Midnight Hour begins well, but Pig's vocals begin to bury themselves under the crushing clarity of Jerry's guitar. It's strange to criticize a '66 show for Jerry being too clear, but there it is. It's like Jer's plugged right into some kind of crystal filter while the entire rest of the band slogs around in the mud. Pig's vocals fade in and out of clarity and the jam is cut, but is fun while it lasts.

Chances are you know what you're getting into with these confusingly labeled, early '66 shows, so take it for what it is. As far as the date, I believe 3/19/66 is the correct one here, since 2/25 (1-8) is actually 3/12. But I'll leave all that to the experts.
Reviewer: squeeze - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - November 1, 2011
Subject: The day / moment of my birth!
I'm a 3-19-66 model! Very cool & VERY groooooovvvyyyy. Thank you BigSur & Cathay Studios for preserving & sharing this! I always knew that there was a dead show going on while I was entering this dimension. Strangely, I just recently discovered that my son was also born during a Dead show (5-19-92) & that they played Tennessee Jed (his name is Jed, but not because of the song!). He made it to one show, 6 weeks later at Buckeye Lake in Ohio.
BTW, this is an excellent recording for being such an oldie! Great energy too. You know our love will not fade away . . . . ever.
Reviewer: bigsur86 - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 19, 2011
Subject: I work there
I've been working for a screenwriter in the Carthay Studios building (now Hi-Point Studios) for a few months now, but I only discovered this awesome piece of history just the other day. Almost 45 years to the day and less than a month before the lease ends on the office. As a Deadhead, I feel obligated to take a few shots of the building and sound stage before we move out and post them online somewhere. There isn't much info about this test on the internet. Can anyone add anything interesting?
Reviewer: Zooomabooma - favoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - May 16, 2008
Subject: Looks Like 3/19
The comments at the bottom appear exactly like that in Deadlists but what's here stops just before:

"UPDATE 1/23/2007 from Paul Scotton ~
David Lemieux, keeper of the vault, has provided a complete set list for 3/12/66. It is:

[setlist]

I think this settles the debate. We should consider what was given to me as 3/19/66 as being 3/19/66."

Since 3/12 appears to be known, then my understanding is this show labeled 3/19 is, or at least is thought to be, 3/19.

Unfortunately the quality suffers a little here compared to a whole bunch of other '66 but it's very easily listenable!

3 stars for the Sound Quality.
4 stars for the show.
10 stars for the historicalness of 1966.
Reviewer: patourkid - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - March 20, 2008
Subject: Grroooovvvvvyyyy!
This one gets a five cause it's 66 and the recording is SUPERB weirdness, no real musical highlights to me but an interesting listen nonetheless.
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